
A few years ago, we played a European festival with the band WASP. The leather clad lead singer, Blackie Lawless, who is six foot something and wears platform shoes, came into the back area stonefaced, shades on and nose in the air. Somehow, he managed to enter with the presence of John Wayne in a Western film, barging into a saloon, guns blazing. At the same time he was, cold, distant and aloof. It was as if he was all that mattered and the rest of us didn't exist.
Blackie is an LA glam rocker who used to get mentioned alongside other icons such as Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue. He was a descendant of shock rocker, Alice Cooper, pre- Marilyn Manson. But somehow WASP's music hasn't had the popularity or staying power of those other artists. Maybe that's because, to be quite honest, it wasn't very good. The songwriting was ok, for the genre and time period, but the musicianship was pretty bad.
But from his backstage demeanor that day, you'd think he was rock star royalty along the lines of Steven Tyler of Aerosmith and Roger Daltrey of The Who. I've since met both Steven and Roger, who were nice and outgoing. I couldn't imagine them acting that way if they tried.
Everyone in my band was a little bit bummed out by him and talked about what a'dick' Blackie was. Normally I'd feel compelled to I give someone the benefit of the doubt and defend them on the grounds of being "misunderstood" or some other bullshit (it's the Libra in me I guess, try to get along with everyone). But in this case I agreed, Blackie's attitude was indefensible.
Nonetheless, I kind of had to hand it to him. He emitted a hell of an aura. It was enough for me to admit holding a secret admiration: not for his behavior, but for him having the balls to pull it off.
" I hear what your saying, and agree with you" I told the guys in my band. "But you know what? That guy believes, therefore he is." There was awkward silence. "Don't you see?" I continued. "He believes in his greatness, we sense it, even if we don't agree. And I guarantee you his audience will buy into it." More silence.
" Look" I pleaded. "Don't let it bum you out. We don't have to like him. We don't have to like his music. I sure don't. And, my god, we should never act like that backstage! But look at his level of confidence! We can learn from that and apply it to our onstage presence."
It was like Vince Vaughn giving a pep talk to his down and out gym employees in the movie "Dodgeball." Others were nodding their heads in agreement. It had been years since we'd played together and we were sounding ok, but something was missing. And seeing him up close exuding extreme confidence, however pretentious and misguided, was helpful (thanks Blackie).
Another Blackie story was told to me by an attractive woman in her forties who once had an encounter with him. It was the mid-80's at the height of WASP's popularity. She had just said goodbye to some friends at the infamous Rainbow Bar And Grill in Hollywood. As she stepped onto Sunset Boulevard to catch a cab, Blackie pulled up in a brand new black Corvette. "Get in" he said, like Sean James Bond pulling up in an Aston Martin.
I ask her what happened next. Her face is glowing like a neon sign in Hollywood.
" I got in!" she says giggling,
"And...?" I ask.
"It was the most wonderful night of my life" she says.
"Sounds like he 'got in' too." I reply .
We both laugh. Just then, her husband approaches. "Please don't tell him, he'll have a fit!"
All this leads me to believe that there needs to be a psychological study on Blackie. Where does one find the audacity to pull off this type of behavior?
The most recent thing I heard about him was from another band that just played a festival with WASP. Supposedly everybody had to clear the area once WASP was brought to their dressing room and no one was even allowed to approach them.
That's really lame Blackie. Sorry. I can understand creating hype and rock star aura, especially if your from the era of LA rock in the 80's. I can get with the Sunset Strip story and you pulling up in a Corvette. Cool, I get it.
But hey, it's 2009 now. What are you doing? Come back down to Earth, Blackie, just a little bit. It's not so bad down here.
18 comments:
I sure do like Pumpkins, Cotton.
If you take Blackie's name out, it looks like you just wrote a blog about George W. Bush.
Mike \m/
First impressions can be lasting, good or bad. His was/is bad. Alex, yours is really good! Seems 'Blackie's ego/persona preceded him into the room not his confidence. It was considerate of you to allow for his overwhelming/compensating? nature and turn it positive, using it to you and your bandmates advantage back then. He's worn his chosen mask, had some fun with it, and even now, stays with that as it is probably all he knows how to be and therefore has become. Where he's most comfortable, but, others are not. We may forget situational specifics but not how someone made us feel. While we all tend to compensate in life, some do it without respect to others feelings, are not aware (scary) don't care, or are just plain assholes.
I totally get what you're trying to say, Alex. Blackie may be a jerk, a legend in his own mind, and no one wants to emulate that, but we can certainly learn from his unwavering self-confidence and total belief in himself. As Wayne Dyer would say, "You'll see it when you believe it."
Just a comment about "the stage": you are at a greater height than the others. And this happens not only for people at the bottom of the box see you better. At that moment and the next 60 minutes of show, you will be the most important thing. You are something we all want to be. "Make the dream happen for those who are below you".
Part of the fault of the artist to behave like an idiot are the people that surround. they make him believe that life is an extension of his art (all moment, all situations). The occupation "artist" or "rock star" seems to have a list of obligations, one of them is having sex with several women, the other is to be stupid.
You can never go up on stage being as yourself, be yourself offstage. Artist is only on stage and never outside. Do you imagine Kiss using make-up all the time? I´m not!
If you really study the behavior of some people, you will discover two kinds of "stars","niceboys" and "badboys". The good are always walking with their children and helping institutions of charity. The evil are always destroying hotel rooms, using drugs, driving drunk ... This maybe explain the fetish from some women with "badboys" : They alway have incredible histories about their performance on bed ! HAHAHAHAHAHHAH... You (I consider a niceboy) also problably has some funny histories passed with groupies, crazy fans, etc (Imagine back from the show , open the door of your hotel room and have a naked girl on bed? or she´s down the bed saying: "special room service!", but as ?, you think, to be here it´s necessary a key!)hahahahahahahah... sorry, was impossible don´t imagine this!
We learning with this two kinds, always!
I hear you guys are playing with them tonight here in Sweden at Rockweekend (so damned frustrated at not having enough money to get down there.... Chickenfoot AND Testament? Two of my favourite guitarplayers (Satch and you) at the same festival and I'm too broke to get down there.. Cue massive *bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*.
Hope you guys have a great gig though and enjoy! :) Guess I'll have to wait 'til next time Testament grace Sweden with your presence... Hey, how about an AST-tour here? Would be pretty damned sweet!
Them being, of course, W.A.S.P.
very weird, I was listening to an old WASP album and thought " Ill go see what Alex is doing on Skolnotes" and there is Blackie.
We are on a intresting wavelength today Skolnick. lol
cya
Interesting, thanks for sharing your story. That really sucks! I hate it when so called "Rock Stars" act like douche bags! I have never met Blackie, but I have met the Bassist, Mike Duda & he was very cool with me.
Now I've met you Alex & you are the nicest guy in the world & very intelligent! Thanks for being you, please never change.
I'm glad to see you had a more um, civil approach about it. And very good points. Way nicer about it than I would of been.
Trapt was the same way when I saw them at the Machine Shop in Flint. *eye roll* The thought that came to mind was "Wtf? Last I checked this isn't a huge venue.. annndddd you're not overly huge like Iron Maiden."
Like you said, come back to Earth.
Yikes.
(suppose I should reread these comments before I go posting something at 3:30am lol)
Great to hear all your thoughts on this. We really are on some kind of wavelength. Now listen to this:
Not only did I have no idea WASP was on the bill for today's show, but no sooner had I posted, when I get a text from a friend who's a guitar tech. He tells me he's touring with them and will see me the next day!
I'm at the festival now, just ran into him (the tech, Kyle) and told him about this post. I asked for his thoughts on Blackie. He told me he's worked for him on and off for the past five years. Yes, Blackie's demanding, knows what he wants and yes, doesn't like being around other people, prefers to be alone (hence the clearing of the dressing room area etc..) and Kyle understands that it bums people out. But, his final word on Blackie is that he's a really good boss and he likes working for him, otherwise he wouldn't keep coming back.
Also, I'd mentioned that the musicianship wasn't great in WASP (it really wasn't. Chris Holmes, the original guitarist, was better known for his public displays of alcoholism than his guitar playing). But these days, Blackie brings aboard young hired guns who can really play. I just had coffee with a couple of these guys. They're cool. The guitarist is from Boston, knows all about AS Trio and is a fan of Charlie Hunter. The drummer went to music school at Indiana University and was roommates with a fusion violinist that I used to play with in New York. Small world, eh?
I should point out that I wrote this not because I'm a WASP fan and not to tear Blackie Lawless down or defend him. I wrote it for these reasons: he is a real rock'n'roll character. I find him fascinating and he makes for great stories.
I'll let you all know if I run into the man himself today. Wouldn't that be interesting. Maybe I can get him to post a comment. Ha ha.
Alex I had the pleasure of meeting you back in May in Hartford, CT and Worcester, MA on back to back SAT/SUN weekend shows. You are one of the most humble people I have ever met. You take the time to talk with your fans, ask them questions, I find it truly amazing that a person as gifted and talented as you has that personality. You gave me and my friend a each a Testament guitar pic and did pics with us, I'll always cherish that!
I tried to meet Blacklie Lawless at that same Webster Theater in Hartford, CT in Febuary of 2008. I love WASP's music, I'm still a fan. Litterally 10 people waited outside for pics and autographs, and he came out in a sweatsuit, and a towel totally covering his head, with a barrage of security around him, then went straight onto his tour bus. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at the time, he was targetted by Christian far right nut jobs and sent death threats at the height of the PMRC back in the 80s. I said Ok, maybe he is paranoid. We still got autographs, but had to hand it to someone for him to hand back while he signed on his bus, seemed sort of over the top.
Then I remember last November, during the predidential elections. He made a blog about how he thought Obama was a terrorist and an elitist, and for people to do some research and think before they vote. I thought to myself and said is he kidding? Calling someone an elitist? He couldnt even do pics and autographs for 10 fans! Which would have taken him 10 minutes maybe, and would have meant the world to them too! If he didnt agree with Obama fine, which I found surprising because he is usually left or a liberal on political matters. He made a living(and an album) criticizing Bush during his presidentcy. Classic case of the Pot Calling the Kettle black(ie).
Hi, Alex! New to your blog (just found it) but you may remember me, as we have talked here on LI and have a number of mutual friends. I loved this blog entry. Blackie fascinates me for the very reasons you cite. I am a fan of his music in and of iteself, but there is more to consider beyond that. I think it is that Blackie as a person makes me take a step back and re-examine my own experiences... because he is so far out of the realm in regard to the other musicians I have ever seen. I have never actually met him, though Ive seen him live many times and even had all-access passes for a show at which WASP played. But, true to the story you were told, we were all (everyone!) kicked out of backstage only because of WASP lol. (In fact it might actually be the same show- although Im certain this is not an isolated incident when it comes to Mr Lawless lol)
Confidence is in and of itself alluring... and often intoxicating. It is attractive in the purest sense of the word. But let me clarify the term- I mean attractive in an almost scientific manner (think of iron filings and bar magnets) because I am NOT attracted to Blackie in the way that we would conventionally use the term.
The alpha male in a pack of animals is often, but NOT always, the strongest or the most adept, but if he is to remain so then he must be smart enough to convince others to accept his position. Others must see the value in it or it just wouldnt work. That is the whole key... if there are others who believe, there he will remain. And there he remains... not on the album charts, but on his stage. Its probably why he is so notoriously picky about his stage, his mic, who goes near it, when he goes on it, what time he walks off it, etc. His stage (and the attention he gets while on it) is the thing that justifies his ego internally.
As far as WASPs music goes, he is an underrated musician IMO. I really do love a lot of it. If you find him interesting, you should give some of it a listen personally, keeping who this man is in mind, and see what you think. I recommend The Headless Children, unHoly Terror, The Crimson Idol, and just for the love of it, the self-titled first album. Honestly, Id be interested in what you think, and I hope you share it!
Take care, Alex :)
Chris
TheMetalChick
Your points are interesting, although it does read like you are trying to control your jealousy of the man, I think you partly admit that. Your one line attempt to discredit his music and your beleif you can some-up some ones life in a split second encounter I think is real demonstatrion of your ego.
If you would like, listen to the Crimson Idol, this will help you to understanding who and what he is.
I hope you don't take this as blatant criticism but as more of a wake up call.
I saw WASP back in 1985 opening for Iron Maiden when they (being Iron Maiden of course) were at one of their creative peaks with the Powerslave album. I saw them at UNO Lakefront Arena general admission and we were real close. WASP was pretty bad except they did one slower quiter song (much like Trail of Tears from Low) where the guitarist took a nice two minute very fluid solo. At the end of their set, Blackie was throwing out rolled up posters of himself (probably one of the pictures you posted) and nobody really wanted them. Since we were in New Orleans and it was around Mardi Gras time, a bunch of us were yelling - Hey throw me someting mister!! - what a conceited clown
HAHAHAHAAH! Okay! I have waited twenty- something years to hear that: They hype on WASP was huge!! I imagined a sort of SCORPIONS sound- mixed with some new and mysterious monster of Metal, my expectations were too high. That rediculous- F#$% like a beast song, well-- it was like the wine that went to cork,.... eeeeww- to quote Whitesnake==spit it out! When I saw them with LAAZ ROCKIT, I brought my DAD!! and many others like me walked out-- it was just--freak show, I wanted more...
Recenly- everyone was trying to scar Paul McCartney when he was divorcing, and his ex-was portraying him as such a cad. I wrote a local paper, asking for opinions- "hes not a saint hes a rock-star," and I felt really guily, because it is a stigma that all rockstars have to deal with. Most famous people have many personalities, but rockstars in general get the worst rap. I should think that is apart of the "show" certainly your a jerk- if you claim to F&^% like a beast! We can't expect them to croon like Bing Crosby, " all the monkeys aren't in the zoo, everyday you meet quite a few..." It's never going to happen, ALEX, this is your Jazz lamb , taming the Rock-N ROll lion within. I personally cant do shock rock-call me what ever you like-- but I am a child of the 70's. I sense another debate...
Damn I hate typos! I am always doing ten things at once, HOW was chickenfoot?~~ AH!!
Alex, seriously--You should have your own reality show on--Youtube!
this is better than soapnet!
;)
As much as I hate to come off as an internet warrior (and I am not, I'd say it to your face) with the following post, I just could NOT help but say...
Coming from a member of a watered down, third-rate, uninspired Metallica clone, where do you get off acting as if you're above W.A.S.P.? You say that their music wasn't "good"? It blows away Testament by a few thousand miles! Their music is GREAT. Perfect in some cases. They do indeed have staying power and have a noteable cult following. Some of their songs are considered anthems among many headbangers. I've known many, many people who say that W.A.S.P. have been a very important band in their lives. Similar to how some see The Beatles, Pink Floyd or The Grateful Dead, etc. Me being one of them. Blackie is NOT some "aging glam rock hasbeen." W.A.S.P. aren't even glam. They're traditional heavy metal. Hell, they've gone beyond that on some tracks, borderline speed metal. "The Torture Never Stops" makes some of those Bay-Area Thrash bands sound like Poison, and not the German band. W.A.S.P. are still relevant and can still kick most bands to the curb. W.A.S.P. has held up better than most veteran bands. In fact, W.A.S.P. are one of the more original bands in today's metal scene.
W.A.S.P. will always be one of the most important metal bands. They're one of the elite that define heavy metal. They've done more good for this genre than you sure have. Once you write an album almost as good as "The Crimson Idol" then maybe you can talk but until then, shut the fuck up.
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